A bizarre bar room conversation related to us by a reader suggests that
ex-military personnel may be being used to provocateur 9/11 truthers
and liberty activists into making violent statements as a potential
pretext for entrapment.
A reader who wishes to remain anonymous
informs us about a strange individual who entered his local bar and
suddenly started spouting off in a loud voice about Jews, 9/11 and even
allegedly made death threats against Barack Obama.
The full story of the encounter is included
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Last night at about 6pm, I decided to go have
a scotch and pizza at a nearby pub. I've been there several times
and like most of the times in my life of visiting bars, I have never
sat next to someone that wanted to (in this case) encourage open statements
against the Jews, against Obama, against the government, but not necessarily
at George Bush, Jeb Bush, or even Marvin Bush.
Out-of-the-blue, a fairly educated looking individual sits down next
to me and began bashing Jews, faster than I could say "What?"
He ordered a pizza and a coke, and began bashing FoxNews as the "Jew
Tube" and kept trying to get my input. My antennas went-up immediately
and I made the mistake of engaging in a conversation with him, and
mentioned that FoxNews was typical of mainstream media now. He continued
to bash Jews at every single level and tells me he knows who exactly
was behind 9/11. "I know I sound like a Jew basher, but it's
the truth," he says...and that "Alex Jones is right and
he bashes Jews too!" (He didn't ask me if I had seen "Loose
Change") but he assumed that I did. I told him that Alex does
not bash Jews, and I asked, "What station do you listen to Alex
on?" He paused and said, "I only saw Loose Change!"
And added..."I don't listen to him on any station." He went-on
about 9/11 being an inside job, and of course, "the Jews did
it," he said.
I told him several times that I have nothing against the people of
Israel, but I am sure that Mossad and the Pakistani ISI were involved,
I continued..."That's a theory and all my expertise is on the
act itself, since I am a retired airline captain of large jets, therefore,
leave it to a new investigation to determine who actually did it!"
He goes-on..."The Jews were behind 9/11, they're behind everything!"
I just shuddered, as most everyone around us could hear him.
He went-on about everyone, including Obama being a Jewish descendent
and "somebody should K*** him" etc. He continued to stay
on that a few minutes and trying to get me to agree. I didn't...
I told him that he can't just walk into a bar, up to someone he doesn't
know, and begin bashing Jews! "That can get you in an immediate
bar fight!" He said..."I have a right to express my 1st
amendment rights and if nobody likes it...tough!"
I was eating my pizza as fast as I could, because I was beginning
to get sick. I felt strongly that he was a federal agent, attempting
to (either) initiate me into a supremacist group, or openly state
something against Obama (to determine a threat level of me), or use
a taped conversation later as evidence to lock me up. BTW...he knew
nothing about REX 84.
He was in full agreement that 9/11 was an inside job, and told me
his name....but if you look at his article on "Defense Link"
below, it paints a different picture. He's retired from the Navy and
seems to have become very disgruntled about 9/11, or he's an agent.
Something tripped this guy, and it would be remarkable if "Loose
Change" did it, but certain things don't add up here. I was definitely
being prompted to agree and talk on his terms.
The moral of this story is to NOT engage in open conversation about
sensitive issues at a bar. Hand them a DVD (outside) and ask them
to tell you later as to what they think about it. If you are the initiator
of a sensitive conversation, you have a better chance of not encountering
a federal agent that wants to drag you into their world. And by all
means...don't open conversations by bashing Jews, Christians, and
telling people what you would like see happen to Obama. ONLY federal
agents can get away with that dialogue when prompting a subject to
fall into their trap. Our new world will get real testy soon and people
need to be aware of who they are talking to, because the search for
dissidents, patriots, 9/11 truthers, bloggers, and radio/journalists
is on the move.
I ate my last piece of pizza and told him I had to go feed my dog.
I get-up, didn't wait for the bartender to take my money...I walked
over to the end of the bar and paid her. He gets up and walks over
to where I am standing and pays his bill too! He leaves out the front
door...I walk into the bathroom, and a guy, that was sitting near
us, (now in the bathroom) had been listening to the conversation,
asked me "What in the hell was that all about? That guy was F******
If that were the entirety of the story
then one would be inclined to dismiss the individual as just a disturbed
However, despite this individual making
vague but hostile statements against Jews, the government, the media
and the official 9/11 story, he is prominently featured on the U.S.
Department of Defense website as a recently retired Navy officer who
expressed vehement support for the war on terror. His real name and
photo are carried on the defenselink.mil website, according to the reader
who related the story, and were provided to us. The reader knows it
is the same guy because he mentioned a very specific thing about himself
during the conversation that is also detailed on the Defense Department
The contradiction between this and the
individual's statements and behavior in the bar suggest that he was
putting on an act in an attempt to attract anyone of a radical bent
that might be a target for an undercover entrapment operation.
His blanket statements yet distinct
lack of detailed knowledge about 9/11, along with his claim that "Alex
Jones bashes Jews," and the alleged death threat made against Obama
are very suspicious indicators that this individual is on the payroll
as a Federal informant involved in some kind of entrapment dragnet.
Far from being a paranoid fantasy, this
is a method commonly employed by intelligence agencies to entrap alleged
terrorists who are later presented to the media as dangerous Al-Qaeda
as we saw in the case of the "Chicago Seven," who were
in actual fact a near-retarded street gang who took cash from an FBI
provocateur in return for making violent remarks and drawing up crude
plans to attack the Sears Tower.
The 9/11 truth movement is completely
peaceful and no 9/11 truther has ever been criminally charged from activities
relating to a protest or demonstration. Despite this fact, smear attempts
to link the truth movement with crude terror attacks, such as the fire-bombing
of the US military recruiting center in New York's Times Square, have
repeatedly been attempted.
We advise readers to express extreme
caution when approached by strangers who begin talking in this manner
and also to report any death threats made against public figures to
the relevant authorities.